Well, let's brainstorm some ideas to kick creeps into maps
- I vote that all raids will now be open first to those who put into /ooc
1) Good Isen into
2) Good Grim
3) Good TA
4) Poor TR
After that, then it's a free for all.
Creeps and their maps
Wed, 07/07/2010 - 8:24am
Thu, 07/15/2010 - 12:52am
#2
Eh, I'm not hugely fussed about maps. I used to lead without them, and I prefer walking to places, more wood along the way! But each leader to their own. All my toons have maps, so I really don't care.
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 7:48am
#3
They need to spend the 3 or 4 days it takes to get their maps for the raid. They screw up our raid when they can't port around with the main raid. Someone can always lead a 2nd raid of creeps without all of their maps.
Mon, 07/12/2010 - 9:19pm
#4
Tonight I stopped at PTR. Freeps had the outnumber buff but had probably 3/4 of a raid going under Syldor. basically used my raid to support the freep raid. seemed to work well.
Mon, 07/12/2010 - 8:26pm
#5
With the "when do we stop" thing, that'll have to depend on freep numbers. If you have 15 creeps raided, ~15 freeps out, and you've checked all good maps, might be better off (in the long run) to tell the rest to go work on maps. No point in getting a huge raid together if it isn't needed.
Thu, 07/08/2010 - 2:57pm
#6
that will do then
Thu, 07/08/2010 - 2:52pm
#7
So maybe go
Good Lug --> Good Grim ---> Good TA ---> Poor TR
I still like V's idea.
Good Isen --> Good Grim --> Good TA --> Poor TR
Anyone who has good Isen will have all the rest, and we are trying to get as many folks as possible in raids who are fully mapped. A mobile raid >> a partially mobile raid, and there's no excuse for most people not to have all their maps at this late date.
Thu, 07/08/2010 - 2:35pm
#8
I'm debating the next step... keep going down until we fill a raid.. or stop at a certain point and to get in, you need to switch to a char with a minimum level of maps
I say stop at a certain point, like others have said, a partially mapped raid is not as effective as a fully maped creep raid.
I would honestly stop inviting people if they do not have 4/5 poors. But that is just me.
Wed, 07/07/2010 - 10:37pm
#9
well, we have to look at what maps we use the most in situations. Obviously maps based on Busy keeps is a must, but also Maps that allow for quick return to a fight. Such as poor grim, Crude Grim, GTA.
Then there are the ones that we generally use. Poor TR, Good Lug, PTA, Crude Isen(ost).
good maps such as GTR, and GG are mostly used for keep checks and outpost. as well as an LC take and quick move to Xroads.
So maybe go
Good Lug --> Good Grim ---> Good TA ---> Poor TR
Wed, 07/07/2010 - 8:11pm
#10
Theres a point where a fully mapped creep is a must. A partially full raid with fully mapped creeps > a full raid of "variously" mapped creeps.
At any other time I dont think its unfair to do this -> If a creep is say, rank 5?, and they arent fully mapped then kick em from the raid. Its more unfair to those who have spent the time and mapped their main and in many cases alts. So who do we reward? Those that put in the effort to be a positive part of the E Creep "team". It really isnt that hard anymore to get a creep fully mapped pretty quickly.
I would put Good Lug under Good Isen.... Good Grim is easy.
Wed, 07/07/2010 - 7:33pm
#11
Depends on the fight, if it's one where ya gotta be moving, then make them switch.
Wed, 07/07/2010 - 6:45pm
#12
I'm debating the next step... keep going down until we fill a raid.. or stop at a certain point and to get in, you need to switch to a char with a minimum level of maps
Wed, 07/07/2010 - 6:41pm
#13
I totally agree with this, always thought that it should be this way however.
Wed, 07/07/2010 - 6:39pm
#14
I think tonight kinda showed what I think is the mindset of most of the new people on creep side. it's the whole "i don't wanna, and you can't make me and suck for trying" mentality. sad...
Wed, 07/07/2010 - 1:35pm
#15
saw my post huh? It is starting to get sad lately as there is no enforcement for maps grinding. I fully understand that people want to PVP out there, but they forget that the PVP is limited when they cant follow the raid to a map point.
I agree with the rules.
after my raid last night I'm half inclined to have them post the 1m grams map too :P
Wed, 07/07/2010 - 11:05am
#16
i agree with that, except i would switch out good isen w/ good lug. i only have good isen on my reaver, however i have every good map except isen on multiple toons. but definitely, we do need to encourage ppl to work on their maps. i agree that by making maps a prerequisite for getting into raids will probably help get ppl moving on them :)
Wed, 07/07/2010 - 8:59am
#17
Works for me, if I ever lead raids, it'll be only for those with good isens.
I have a rank zero defiler with all the good maps.
Just did a /played on him. 1 day 18 hours.
There is no excuse for not having maps.
Just consider getting them as a fun mini-game :)
Gunnolf - Murzo
Never fought as a freep in the Moors. Never will.