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Last Night TR

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I was kinda bummed out last night after that TR fight with the Troll. I am just sharing my thoughts, it is kinda long because I was mentally scattered all over the place.

At first I was mad because what looked like a great fight was ruined when the troll came up. We definately had favorable numbers, but whether they would have held at the CG would have been interesting.

I also kind of felt bad for the Troll, after all he was just doing what Turbine let's him do and trying to have fun, and we kinda just bailed on him. Which while I abided by I didn't fully agree with. :?

Earlier that day, I got caught by a LM twice and a Burg and was destroyed, I used the right skills and POTS when I needed to but I was still destroyed. Everyone here who has been here since BETA remembers that one on one with a freeps was overwhelmingly a losing proposition. I have soloed Hunters, Guardians, Champions, Captains, minstrels and even one LM but in all of those cases I either played better due to my experience or had favorable circumstances.

The combination of these two events just made me think back to where we came from, Silens in the Slug Pits, being destroyed as we tried to defend keeps, fighting and dying for an hour for just 1 kill. You can look in the PVMP forums and see what we faced, they still have a sticky up about the burglar stealth trait from around the begginning of the game.

We have superior players right now, it is not to say that the freeps are bad individually, but as a group we can see who to focus fire on with out an order even being given and they are just gone. Also I don't remember as many people in their 40's in the moors. They still have superior toons to us. The gap is smaller for some but still just as wide for others. I believe with more experience they would still own us.

My last thought before I logged is I hate that I am trying so hard to make the freeps playing experience enjoyable. We have trolls yes which gives us an edge in raid situations for the first time since the game started. They still have Lore Masters, Burglers, Mintrels and Hunters, which are all more powerful than our equivalents. The problem for them in mental now. They remember owning us any where in the Moors anytime. Now they can't do that as easily. I remember losing, so dying now doesn't affect me because I died so much that it didn't matter as long as I got to kill some I was happy. They remember winning and so the thought of losing is such a turn off that they snatch defeat from the Jaws of victory.

I hope the next time someone pulls a Troll we don't ostracize them but help them, because for so long we were on the other side of that and we got better. It made a lot of us quit for some time but in the end when Turbine changed things and we came back we were better. I want things to be fair so that it is player skill that wins the day, however people with Burgs, and LM and any class that owns you will not stop using that against you. I just wish sometimes we weren't trying to be the better person if we can call it that.

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fellheart
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I agree it is a catch 22,
For them to have fun they have to kill us.
For us to have fun we have to let them kill us.
For us to have fun we have to kill them.

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While I quite understand your perspective.. right now we're at a very bad spot in the life of the 'moors. If we don't sorta lay off on the Freeps and give them a chance in heck to win, they'll never come back again

Remember bk9 and before... we got smoked over and over and over again, we've been utterly destroyed and only the strong survived.. we lost a LOT of creeps to frustration.

If we do that to the freep population, it'll be an empty 'moors. We already know that most of them lack the stomach to fight a fair fight.

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Sorry it doesn't seem to keep me logged in this is Fellheart with two LL's

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